Second round (very important).

Hello honorables warriors.

For the seconds rounds of our 2 tourneys, we will use a new mod created by Saint-Avenger: "Balanced Mod".
(The thirds rounds, we will back with normal version.)

Indeed , our Avenger found a new mod which balances better the barbarians.

With this mod, the barbarians are stronger, but not the best !
It explains why we let you one week to practice.

This week download the Saint's mod, and the second round will begin the May monday 22th.

We hope you will like this Mod.
And congrtulations Avenger, good job my friend !

GBY.
Saint-Louis.

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To install the mod, it's very easy:


HERE Mod v.1.2:
http://clantw.fm.interia.pl/Balanced%20All%20Nations%20Mod%20v.1.2%20(04.05.exe

You must just take the place the file "export_descr_Unit (235 ko)" by the Saint's mod "export_descr_Unit (236 ko)"

You will replace this file in : Rome-Total War/ Data.
That's all !

If you want back to Normal Version RTW take this file:
http://clantw.fm.interia.pl/Original%20export_descr_unit.exe


If you've got a problem contact me please.
(Pour les français une traduction pourra etre faite si vous rencontrez des difficultés).


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***** ENCLOSED FIELD:*****
At the end of the the week, an opinion poll will be made to the players. If the majority votes that the mode is bad, we will play the seconds rounds, in normal mode.

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The rules for the troops won't change.
The map will be : Prippet Marshes

Good Luck and enjoy

GBY.
Saint-Louis.

Meybe We Can Use My File With Maps this is 130 Maps
This is Link:

https://saintsforum.forumactif.com/viewtopic.forum?t=341

In this file have GODs Mappack and My Maps

Thanks Avenger, i think, our players won't have time to practice with new troops and new maps.
Let them to work this new mod and await their reactions


But i recommend to download the Avenger's map, it's great !

GBY.
Saint-Louis.

Avenger, for our players and the visitors can you explain the corrections, the changes (in details) with this mod please ?

Thanks my friend.

GBY.
Saint-Louis.

THIS MOD HAVE NEW:

-new morale for Barbarians
-altered soldiers' quantity at Barbarians and in individuals Romans from before reforms
-general settlement the prices of individual individuals
-change all in Egipt
-general settlement all

GBY
Saint-Avenger

VETO!!!!


WHAT??? MOD!!!!!! We are play for rome, only Rome!!!!!!!!!!

VETO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ONLY ROME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I ask you to try this mod during one week, if you disagree, you can refuse this mod at the end of the week.

But test it during the week, and you will vote what you want at the end of the week.

GBY.
Saint-Louis.

If we play on this mod i'm Departing for tourney
I don't play on mod i play only on clean RTW witch patch v1,2 .

sir_Math

I DONT AGREE IN PLAYING ON THIS MOD I play only on clean RTW.

U didnt tell us before start this tournament that we will play on some mods!!




In wchih tournment in the world. Game is changed (improved by some MOD or sth) in the middle of tournament!!!

It's a proposition.

I give you one week to test it.

At the end of the week, you will be able to vote your impression if you disagrre with this mod , vote, and we will play the second round with a normal version.

But test it before judging...

The opinion poll will be open satruday to decide if all the players agree or not to play with this mod.
If the majority disagree we will play with the normal version the second round.

This mod is just for the second round, the third round will be with a normal version.

It's you who decide....

GBY.
Saint-Louis.

Ave all

it is a very good idea !!! congratz avenger i am very surprise , but good surprise

i test that with my clan and i give you my opinion for tourney , it is a very fun idea

Jak zwykle Polacy robia zamieszanie nawet nie sp[robojecie a juz nazekacie i mowicie NIE!! Nie rozumie was wogole ludzie czy nie chcecie moc zagrac kazda nacja?? Potestujcie najpierw a pozniej nazekajcie nic sie nie zmienilo jednostki sa te same wszystko wyglada identycznie tylko ze barbarzyncy sie wzmocnili i jednostki rzymskie zprzed reform.
Nie badzcie jak dzieci tylko zainstalujcie i sprawdzcie to tylko 1 maly plik do podmiany i gotowe a zawsze mozna zamienic spowrotem na orginalny
i wrocic do normalnego romka.

Pozdrawiam
GBY
Saint-Avenger

P.S. Zachowujecie sie jak jakies NOOBY nie placzcie tylko instalujcie i testujcie

Even if players like the mod, it still wouldn't be very fair beacuse Avenger knows the mathematics behind the units morale and other stats since he set the values. That means he will know how to exploit the numbers in his favour. The only way this would be remotely fair is if the mod was made by an independant player not inside the SAINTS or the ONE tournament and he documented his modifications thoroughly.

Things like this

THIS MOD HAVE NEW:

-new morale for Barbarians

are too vague, for example does it mean they have better or worse? which units are affected? by how much? ONLY Avenger knows the exact answer to these questions and by knowing the answer its not fair in any way to everyone else considering he can now use it to his advantage and tell other saint members how to exploit it.

Warnager if you want look to changes in my mod you must open my file this is TEXT and open Orginal File. Now you can see my modification and all statisticks of units this is very easy. THIS IS NO SECRET AND IM HONORABLE YOU AND ALL PLAYERS HAVE TIME TO TESTING AND SEE UNITS!!!

GBY
Saint-Avenger

P.S. Math you dont want play with MOD because you fight VS MasterOfPuppets and you Win but Second Round Dont Sarted and i dont know whai you fight

Exactly Avenger, you can open the file of MOD 1.2 it's clear no ?

Avenger created this new MOD, but All the Saints support the work of Avenger.
We think, this MOD is very interesting to compensate the weakness of barbarians.
Then this MOD is this of the Saints

Now , test it please, and you'll see that this MOD is complete

Test it this week and vote saturday to decide if you want to play the second round with the MOD or not

GBY.
Saint-Louis.

For exemple:

Citation :

type barb warguard gaul
dictionary barb_warguard_gaul ; Chosen Swordsmen
category infantry
class heavy
voice_type Heavy_1
soldier barb_warguard, 50, 0, 1.5
officer barb_standard
attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, hardy
formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 13, 5, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 7, 5, 5, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 5
stat_ground 2, -2, 3, 2
stat_mental 12, impetuous, untrained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 620, 210, 70, 110, 620
ownership gauls

The Saints don't propose this MOD to TRAP you!

Just to enjoy playing ....that's All !


GBY.
Saint-Louis

I disagree with using a MOD for this tournament. Obviously people who play the mod will; be better acuainted with it. I personally do not have time to relearn all the fundementals of a new mod. If this mod goes through, I will withdraw.

You're not obliged to play with this mod but you can...

GBY.
Saint-Louis.

I WON'T PLAY ON THIS MOD and i think that u cant change rules of tournamet . Changes r too big!

I didn't change anything, you're playing as you want.
Read the posts please before wrtting with BIG LETTERS.

GBY.
Saint-Louis.